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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

so are they married now or did it get called off?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure ... maybe Angry_ can chime in on that ...or else we'll have to do some research or ask Daike.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This reminds me... On the North American version of Voices (or any of Shinkai's other movies), is the Japanese/subbed version also on the DVD, or is it just the dubbed version?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it looks like I was incorrect earlier.  Mika Shinohara was Shinkai's fiance at the time Voices of a Distant Star was made.  As far as I (and others) know, though, he's still single, but his marriage status is really a private affair.  Even if such stuff can be interesting backstory to his movies, I'd rather focus more on his work itself.  

Phantast wrote:
This reminds me... On the North American version of Voices (or any of Shinkai's other movies), is the Japanese/subbed version also on the DVD, or is it just the dubbed version?


The DVDs have both the subbed and the dubbed versions of his work, except for She and Her Cat, which only has the Subbed version.  Voices of a Distant Star should also have the original voice acting by Shinkai and Shinohara on it, too.

I'd actually recommend watching both version of his films, starting with the dub.  The dubs ADV have done with his work are generally very good, and it's good to be hit by the visual effect of his films without being distracted by subtitles on the first go.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've watched Voices of a Distant Star before, just... not on the DVD. The version I watched was subbed.

With very few exceptions, I usually like the subs more... And (as a rule) I hate it when they "Americanize" anime.

There will be much suffering in Guilder if "Noboru" has become "Larry". Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HA HA .. don't worry Voices is almost as good in English as the Japanese. The Dubs are pretty good for all of these. The subs are awesome ... theres a thread about that on the forums here somewhere Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I've actually watched the English dub and the original Japanese dub (The one with Shinkai and his fiancee at the time voicing the characters) with subtitles back-to-back and I have some serious issues with the scripting for the English dub.  The voice acting is just fine, just several things about how the script was changed really irked me.

One thing, though this isn't the serious problem, Mikako's personality was changed in the English dub.  This isn't necessarily a problem, though...

Changing the wording, alone, isn't necessarily a problem.  Changing the meaning from what it was said originally starts getting into the danger zone.  Especially changing the meaning for no apparent reason.  For example, when  Noboru says something like, in the original subtitle says something like "I'm at a door that will never open, so I will stop knocking", the dub said "I'm at a door that will never open, yet I keep knocking".  More criticism of this was on a review of the Voices of a Distant Star DVD on ANN.

This isn't even the worst criticism of it, though.  Many a reviewer (including me) have criticized VoaDS for being a bit scientifically inaccurate with how long it took messages to reach Earth from Jupiter and from Pluto.  Unfortunately, this is because we were criticizing the dubbing.  The "adapted" English dub mentioned that it would take 6 months for a message to go from Pluto to Earth.  I also remember it saying it takes 3 months from Jupiter to Earth.  Both are incorrect, as it takes radio waves 52 minutes to go from Jupiter to Earth and about 4.5 hours to go from Pluto to Earth.  In the past, I've chalked it down to messaging priorities in the communications between the ships and Earth, but it seems the reality is the crappy "adaptation" dubbing.  In the subtitles, there is no mention of how long a message would take inside the solar system.  There is only the fact it took 6 months for the ships to travel form Jupiter to Pluto.  The first mention was for how long it would take to send a message to Earth from outside the Oort cloud!

So, I have to rescind my earlier statement; if you have any stipulation for scientific accuracy, stick with the subtitles.  If such errors don't bother you, try out the dub so you can soak in the visuals, then watch again with the subtitles.  Even better, the subtitles include translations of the magazines shown, which imparts more information to piece together of what is happening, something that is not available in the English dub.

Fortunately, ADV didn't do this for The Place Promised in Our Early Days, as it looks like they tried hard to keep the meaning the same, so the English dub works out much better with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats one of the reasons why I like the Subs is that so often the English Dub isn't even what is in the Sub. Try watching with both on at the same time ... stuff like that irks me a little.

Can't say I'm all that concerned about the exactness of the science of communication in the film ^_^

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is one of the main reasons I don't like dubs. They tend to change some lines a lot to whatever is suitable instead of just trying to translate it from the original. That kind of kills a bit of the story.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i most definitely like subbed more than dubbed. ever since i started watching anime and japanese drama, i felt that 'dubbed' films are too edited and abit fake. soo, i guess i just like the ones with the original voices? haha

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