Makoto Shinkai English Fan Forum and Site Forum Index Makoto Shinkai English Fan Forum and Site

An Unofficial English Fan Site for Makoto Shinkai
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   Join! (free) Join! (free)  ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 


Some thoughts ...
Page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Makoto Shinkai English Fan Forum and Site Forum Index ->
5 CM per Second
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
yrael32
Tracer


Joined: 27 Mar 2008
Posts: 2


Location: Philippines

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

I've just recently watched 5CM and my thoughts about it are still somewhat addled and I think I'm going to have to watch it again to fully comprehend what it truly means.

What I do know though is what I felt after watching the film. I felt "empty", to say the least, immediately after watching the movie. Probably because of the  ending. The ending was indeed a good one but the romantic in me still felt that Takaki could've done something more to maintain his relationship with Akari. He did it when he was a kid why couldn't he do it when he grew older? Though after sometime, I realized how good the ending was and found that the ending smile did hold a lot of meaning.

Now, after watching 5CM, I immediately scoured the net for more information about the movie and found this site. Reading your insights and comments about 5CM really helped me understand more about the plot and the message Shinkai wanted to tell. I've also seen some posts that what Takaki felt for Akari was not love. IMO Takaki really did feel love for Akari. One wouldn't travel a far a distance as he did if one didn't love the person, note that I am using the term love loosely. I believe that what stopped their relationship from growing, apart from their ever growing distance, was Takaki's inability to do anything with the emotion he felt. As was said in the 2nd episode, during the Sakura Tree Scene, he didn't know what to do with the emotion he felt when they kissed. It was new to him and if could have somehow comprehend and come to terms with what he was feeling AND act upon them, he would have it so much better.

So I guess what I felt after watching the movie was regret, even though I wasn't Takaki (lol), because he could've done much better. (this realization came out while I was writing this post [lol2x])

Please note that all of these are just opinions and speculations.  Very Happy

(i wrote one long post ><)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Laz
Laz


Joined: 09 Jan 2008
Posts: 1330



PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good post yrael32. My thoughts were pretty much the same. Why didn't he do more ? Who knows .. maybe he just didn't know how ?

I definitely felt regret as well ... that the promise of what Takaki and Akari had was unfulfilled, which is different than Voices or Place Promised ... in both of those films the ending is considerably more concretely positive and upbeat. But the more I thought about it ... the more I realized that the ending was positive (IMO) for Takaki ... maybe he and Akari didn't work out but that doesn't mean another relationship can't work out for him.

Welcome to the boards Smile

Laz
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
CLains
Tracer


Joined: 15 Aug 2008
Posts: 1



PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glimpses of the limitlessness of the world can leave one in a state of mixed emotions such as awe, joy and sadness combined. For me the movie seemed to be about such a state that was revealed in a relationship (as gaining an insight through experience).

As several of you point out, they were slowly drifting apart into their own separate futures. To question whether he still loves her or whether they have a potential etc. seems trivial to me. The relationship is one that can be highlighted as giving rise to similar feelings such as that between a mother and son. A mother loves her son and the son his mother; the question of whether they will stick together, of whether they will continue their relationship seems trivial when you consider the broader implications inherent in change of circumstance and drifting away into separate beings - necessities of this world..

Two can not become one, the present will ever become the past, we cannot prevent ourselves from changing etc. I don't think the issue is whether we can be perfectly happy with perfect conduct or whether someone is to blame if things are sad; rather i think the moral here is that sadness is inherent or inevitable, and that rather than try to ignore it or lament over it, we should face it and affirm life and recognize its beauty despite the sometimes cold and empty nature of the universe.

I don't think there is necessarily any one right way to interpret the movie. As a work of art it's all about being general enough to relate to different people with different effects, while still hitting each individual in such a way that they feel as if it was aimed directly or even uniquely at them.. It certainly welled up a lot of emotions in me, and this interpretation was my way to make sense of that particular experience. Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dy.laneA
VNP 46b-512


Joined: 27 Jan 2008
Posts: 825



PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You put it in very beautifle words CLains!

The pains of living are good source material for stories, since they have the power to make people feel emotion. Heh I wonder what kind of pains Shinkai has gone though in his life.
_________________
Hello I am an artist...
My Blog
My DA
My Conceptart.org Sketchbook
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
Laz
Laz


Joined: 09 Jan 2008
Posts: 1330



PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well stated CLains Smile

Welcome to the forums ^-^

Laz
_________________
You're a woman, I'm a calf ... you're a window, I'm a knife ... we come together making chance into starlight ... - Jeff Buckley

ここにいるよ. - Voices of a Distant Star
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Junpei
VNP 46b-512


Joined: 25 Jan 2008
Posts: 873


Location: Australia

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicely said Clains.

Menasha, I think we could say Shinkai certainly went through some pains throughout his life. I believe it would be really difficult, if not impossible, to see the sad/painful scenes he created in his works if he had not experienced pain or suffered in some way.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger
seraphofreverie
VelaCiela


Joined: 02 Oct 2008
Posts: 37


Location: Michigan, USA

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Takaki is a victim.
A victim of fear; the fear of losing something he cares for deeply.
The friendship and bond he shared with Akari.
Sometimes, even when we know its love, and the affection is mutually shared on both sides, it can be frightening --- because things are so good right now, that you're afraid something in the future might ruin it.  
When you're close with someone dear to you, its hard to go beyond that.
Because in the end, you're saying goodbye to something precious --- something you might not be able to get back.
Of course, this is only my opinion, that I share, from personal experience.
I don't think so much that Takaki showed a reluctance to love Akari, as much a reluctance to leave behind the fragile relationship they had worked so hard towards in the first place.
It sounds silly --- I know.  But it happens.
What do you do, when you fall in love with your best friend..?
_________________
~ Even the smallest candle can banish a little darkness ~
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Laz
Laz


Joined: 09 Jan 2008
Posts: 1330



PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a tough one ... you never know how they're going to react.

At first I was annoyed with Takaki ... then the more I saw the movie the more I felt sorry for him, that he couldn't or wouldn't move on. In the end I feel that he does and at least that gives me a sweet taste to the sadness at the end.

Laz
_________________
You're a woman, I'm a calf ... you're a window, I'm a knife ... we come together making chance into starlight ... - Jeff Buckley

ここにいるよ. - Voices of a Distant Star
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
davus0
Tracer


Joined: 19 Jan 2009
Posts: 22



PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think when T took off the watch, in some sense he was saying it no longer mattered how long it took; he would wait for her forever.  

This was liberating (like taking off handcuffs) and probably helped to give him the courage to kiss her, since that was the only thing he wanted to do with his life then; he could show the moment's affection with total abandon.  It was at the same time constraining and benumbing since he could no longer choose anyone else.

Anyway, in short, everything seemed to change from the train, but T did not act accordingly as things then seemed.  I think he just lost sight of whatever hope he had had.  

However, that is not to say that everything, necessarily, could not have changed after that night.

I distrust anyone that says it just couldn't have worked out or whatever, though.  It makes no sense except in Hollywood that two people deepen their relationship and then call the whole thing off.  More likely, they had no clue as to a next step.  The kiss seemed to change everything.  But in fact it only gave them a chance to change everything.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Junpei
VNP 46b-512


Joined: 25 Jan 2008
Posts: 873


Location: Australia

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

davus0 wrote:
I think when T took off the watch, in some sense he was saying it no longer mattered how long it took; he would wait for her forever.


Actually, she was the one waiting, but I understand what you are saying. In a situation such as that, time is meaningless.

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Makoto Shinkai English Fan Forum and Site Forum Index ->
5 CM per Second
All times are GMT
Page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
Page 4 of 6

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Count Down to Global Shinkai Festival 4
Check out the SHOUTcast here ...

Minicaster Radio Playhead

To listen you must install Flash Player. Visit Draftlight Networks for more info.



Recent Posts
fan made movie
space elevator love story
My day in Tokyo and my pseudo-interview with Shinkai-san
A bit of fanart - Letters
Shinkai Anime Details
Shinkai Makoto auf deutsch
What does Sayuri read in school?
Neko
Hello
New Shinkai Film: Kotonoha no Niwa

Top posters
Laz 1330
Junpei 873
Dy.laneA 825
gleowine 415
zitch 306
IsUa 249
Nick 243
Phantast 196
Maltos 160
Janny 147




This Space for Rent

(Reserved)


Card File  Gallery  Forum Archive
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Create your own free forum | Buy a domain to use with your forum